tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post6316420487356023696..comments2023-05-10T08:55:47.701-07:00Comments on Richard Carrier Blogs: The God Who Wasn't ThereRichard Carrierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17577206926510030146noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-71869133299809035972011-01-28T14:29:56.883-08:002011-01-28T14:29:56.883-08:00Thomas said... Are you happy? Does your life have ...<b>Thomas said...</b> <i>Are you happy? Does your life have purpose? Does life make sense within the paradigm you have constructed?</i><br /><br />Yes.<br /><br />Read my book demonstrating why: <i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1420802933?ie=UTF8&tag=richardcarrier-20" rel="nofollow">Sense and Goodness without God</a></i>.<br /><br />All your Jesus stuff is just Richard Carrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577206926510030146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-66202789594207670522011-01-28T14:25:13.239-08:002011-01-28T14:25:13.239-08:00Devan Evans said... These are the publishers of so...<b>Devan Evans said...</b> <i>These are the publishers of some of the sources.</i><br /><br />Not the ones I was referring to. Read more carefully <a href="http://richardcarrier.blogspot.com/2009/03/god-who-wasnt-there.html?showComment=1282617377641#c2329313528337187147" rel="nofollow">what I actually said</a>. <br /><br /><i>I must state with conviction that you are just attacking the person Richard Carrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577206926510030146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-19319514052844958372011-01-28T04:55:30.186-08:002011-01-28T04:55:30.186-08:00@Thomas Your appeal to whether or not people are &...@Thomas Your appeal to whether or not people are "happy" obviously doesnt address the questions posed by the obvious holes in arguments for Christ and religion in general. All kinds of fake things can make you "happy" and give you a sense of "purpose". If someone tells you that you are actually god's special messenger to the world and its entire fate rests on Code Handymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09198842669030582829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-48195394527878277992011-01-28T00:15:37.977-08:002011-01-28T00:15:37.977-08:00I'm not going to try to win anyone over. Too m...I'm not going to try to win anyone over. Too many all full of themselves and just so proud of their higher thinking.<br /><br />But I do pose a few questions: are you happy? Does your life have purpose? Does life make sense within the paradigm you have constructed? <br /><br />You can't keep Jesus out. He works in ways you can't thwart. You will find He is the Light of the World even Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12001527014668560369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-43134040220206473052010-09-03T22:41:24.408-07:002010-09-03T22:41:24.408-07:00Dubious sources cited Carrier?
"E.J. Brill
P...Dubious sources cited Carrier?<br /><br />"E.J. Brill<br />Peeters<br />Kegan Paul<br />Oxford University/Clarendon Press<br />Princeton University Press<br />Cambridge University Press<br />Cornell University Press<br />Yale University Press<br />University of Chicago Press<br />University of Pennsylvania Press<br />University of Wisconsin Press<br />Johns Hopkins Press<br />Harcourt, BraceDevan Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12678075852686002372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-10422233378757555302010-08-25T07:48:23.505-07:002010-08-25T07:48:23.505-07:00You're right, then. It has more in common with...You're right, then. It has more in common with Christianity, and indeed aligns with Gospel of John, which suggests the direction of influence was Christianity-->Odin (since the spearing on the post did not originate with Christianity but was added later by John for reasons having to do with an obscure alignment with Jewish scripture, which is the opposite of "influence from Richard Carrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577206926510030146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-25121364876466198482010-08-24T03:24:03.066-07:002010-08-24T03:24:03.066-07:00Oh, the tree and the spear are a part of the same ...Oh, the tree and the spear are a part of the same myth. I discuss the original source <a href="http://www3.hi.is/~haukurth/norse/reader/runatal.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> and review multiple English translations of it.Haukurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17669738332175762658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-23293135283371871472010-08-23T19:36:17.641-07:002010-08-23T19:36:17.641-07:00Devan Evans: Your argument is fallacious. Most of ...<b>Devan Evans:</b> Your argument is fallacious. Most of those hundreds of cites are for trivia that has no bearing on the substantial conclusions. I was referring to the facts that are dubious, not all the window dressing. When you get to the claims that are questionable, it's almost Murdock all the way down. I'm also bothered by her not telling readers that she is Murdock.<br /><br />AsRichard Carrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577206926510030146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-36758985892103904352010-08-12T12:30:10.880-07:002010-08-12T12:30:10.880-07:00Maybe you misunderstood, the new sourcebook contai...Maybe you misunderstood, the new sourcebook contains ...<br /><br />"...This effort includes much new source material drawn from primary sources as well the works from credentialed authorities in a variety of relevant subjects. Indeed, I have strived to include the best and most thorough, scholarly and modern sources wherever possible, with the result that many authorities cited here possessVincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02571004784757870370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-21511042634494400112010-08-11T03:25:07.731-07:002010-08-11T03:25:07.731-07:00Odin sacrifices himself to himself, hanging from a...Odin sacrifices himself to himself, hanging from a tree, wounded by a spear so there's clearly some similarity with the crucifixion story.<br /><br />The earliest attestation of this Odinic myth is in the Hávamál, which is no older than the 9th century and is preserved in a 13th century manuscript. <br /><br />It is often speculated that the pagan Norse borrowed the myth from the Christians. Haukurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17669738332175762658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-21150408525708516872010-08-10T13:05:43.989-07:002010-08-10T13:05:43.989-07:00Carrier I would like to state the obvious, out abo...Carrier I would like to state the obvious, out about 345 footnotes Murdock (Acharya) is cited in 78 of them. That makes 267 citations that don't have her in the footnotes.<br /><br />Also there are about 300+ sources throughout all. If you look at the amount of time Murdock is cited in the 267 footnotes and compare it to all the other sources cited, contracting with the amount of footnotes Devan Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12678075852686002372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-34564365168766255952010-08-05T14:51:27.113-07:002010-08-05T14:51:27.113-07:00Examine those "defenses" critically:
M...Examine those "defenses" critically: <br /><br />Most of it consists of Murdock citing herself (as if you didn't know, Acharya S <i>is</i> D.M. Murdock);<br /><br />Much of it consists of backtracking (making excuses for why the claims in the movie aren't quite exactly correct but nevertheless one can infer such things from largely unrelated data, provided you ignore their Richard Carrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577206926510030146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-33364515031004281292010-08-04T07:52:31.370-07:002010-08-04T07:52:31.370-07:00New sourcebook guide for Zeitgeist part 1
"H...New sourcebook guide for Zeitgeist part 1<br /><br />"Here is the new sourcebook guide for Zeitgeist part 1 (ZG1) with new highly respected and credentialed scholarly sources, citations and bibliography. Also new images have been added among other new references. These new sources render all of the anti-ZG1 videos and reviews etc obsolete. The anti-ZGers and other critics will need to start Vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02571004784757870370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-11983289353102605892010-02-08T11:32:45.885-08:002010-02-08T11:32:45.885-08:00Code Handyman said... Can you add a cite or someth...<b>Code Handyman said...</b> <i>Can you add a cite or something to back this claim up, or at least expand on it?</i><br /><br />I did. My blog linked to Lippard's catalogue.Richard Carrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577206926510030146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-17927192109843289642010-01-25T10:35:12.283-08:002010-01-25T10:35:12.283-08:00You mention that claims in Zeitgeist are "utt...You mention that claims in Zeitgeist are "utter garbage" but do not post any real arguments, or cite anything to support your extreme position on the film's claims.<br /><br />Can you add a cite or something to back this claim up, or at least expand on it?<br /><br />I am mostly interested in the bits that talk about the myth of christ, the similarities to egyptian myths etc. The Code Handymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09198842669030582829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-42540628072934529762009-12-21T18:08:46.840-08:002009-12-21T18:08:46.840-08:00Robert Bumbalough, book is in progress and coming ...<b>Robert Bumbalough</b>, book is in progress and coming along well. I just sent donors a progress report a month ago. The material I have will become several books, but one general one will come first. I will produce no other book (of my own) until that one comes out.Richard Carrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577206926510030146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-6373551898001999582009-12-18T10:37:34.752-08:002009-12-18T10:37:34.752-08:00Hello Dr Carrier. I hope you are well and feeling ...Hello Dr Carrier. I hope you are well and feeling fine. I wish you and your family a happy and joyful winter solstice celebration. Sir, could you comment on your intentions and or progress on your book "On the Historicity of Jesus Christ"?<br /><br />Best Regards <br /><br />Robert BumbaloughAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03469718358131331499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-91469967278244896052009-04-28T16:43:00.000-07:002009-04-28T16:43:00.000-07:00Haukur: Regarding Easter: Thanks! All good to know...<B>Haukur:</B> Regarding Easter: Thanks! All good to know. I've just changed the text in the PDF to reflect the ambiguity of the evidence, since the precise details weren't relevant there, and I don't want to misinform anyone.Richard Carrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577206926510030146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-78129856505011346622009-04-28T16:41:00.000-07:002009-04-28T16:41:00.000-07:00Steven Carr said... Paul is clear that Jesus was o...<B>Steven Carr said...</B> <I>Paul is clear that Jesus was only called Jesus after he died.</I><BR><BR>Unfortunately, no. The text is ambiguous. The "name" he was given could refer to a hidden name (God had many hidden names of power, YHWH was supposed to be one of them) that isn't stated in the text, or to the designation Christ or Lord. In which case, the "at the name of Jesus" wouldn't refer Richard Carrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577206926510030146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-19068436888039621152009-04-22T04:01:00.000-07:002009-04-22T04:01:00.000-07:00Romans 1
'... made of the seed of David according ...Romans 1<br />'... made of the seed of David according to the flesh'.<br /><br />If Jesus had been a human being, why would Paul have ever thought to use such a phrase?<br /><br />After all , Paul never says Jesus had a nose.<br /><br />Because that is too obvious to state.<br /><br />So the bizarre phrase 'according to the flesh', must have some meaning other than was flesh and blood.<br /><br /Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-87623537701658473432009-04-22T00:21:00.000-07:002009-04-22T00:21:00.000-07:00Philippians 2
And being found in appearance as a ...Philippians 2<br /><br />And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself <br /> and became obedient to death even death on a cross! <br /> 9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, <br /> 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth....<br /><br />Paul is clear that Jesus was Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-18713819400170837802009-04-16T04:16:00.000-07:002009-04-16T04:16:00.000-07:00On Easter: I've been researching these questions w...On Easter: I've been researching these questions with some fellow Wikipedians. The English Wikipedia article on <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eostre" REL="nofollow">Eostre</A> is now pretty solid and should answer most questions. The main thing missing are the alternative etymological theories but the <A HREF="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostara#Etymologische_Diskussionen" REL="nofollow">Haukurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17669738332175762658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-76260936897114694222009-04-14T14:07:00.000-07:002009-04-14T14:07:00.000-07:00Haukur said... I'm curious where you got this from...<B>Haukur said...</B> <I>I'm curious where you got this from. Bede doesn't say it and he's essentially our only source for this goddess. Is this some speculative reconstruction?</I>Not mine. I can't recall my source. Probably some run-of-the-mill encyclopedia. It wasn't relevant to the film so I didn't double-check. If the word Easter has some other source or the egg thing some other origin do Richard Carrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577206926510030146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-53892912147976490212009-04-06T07:20:00.000-07:002009-04-06T07:20:00.000-07:00I just got the new book called "Christ in Egypt" b...I just got the new book called "Christ in Egypt" by D. M. Murdock / Acharya S. Her earlier books were ridiculous, but her last book "Who Was Jesus?" was alot better and more serious, it seemed to me anyway. I really wish Richard Carrier would review this new one because it looks pretty serious but I can't decide if she is a scholar or a charlatan, or maybe a little bit of both. any thoughts aboutWill77https://www.blogger.com/profile/07373823602815795682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36959219.post-1704905621993701032009-03-27T12:05:00.000-07:002009-03-27T12:05:00.000-07:00I heard that the makers of GWWT interviewed people...I heard that the makers of GWWT interviewed people without any historical background for the historicity portion (such as Richard Dawkins). Is that true?Kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835645659215318817noreply@blogger.com